Your Venetic Origins


VENETIAN AMBASSADORS is proud to be the first Foundation to raise funds to sponsor:


 Read the REPORT below kindly written by expert Dr. Piero Favero, taking into account that:

 Step 1 and 2: minimum costs of research.

 Step 3:

  • € 20,000 for a sampling of at least two hundred subjects in Veneto, recruitment costs, lab tests, staff of two researchers, including a full-time project manager for three months.
  • € 150,000 for 3 samples of at least 200 individuals (Poland, Baltic States, Britain), recruitment and travel and staff costs for at least 4 researchers (all) full-time for 12 months.

 Step 4-5:

  • € 250,000 for osteological testing, archaeological and research extension/to northern Anatolia, with 7 staff experts (all) full time for a period of one year.

YOU DON'T NEED €420,000 to attempt to validate the fascinating hypothesis proposed by historians for centuries that Turks, Ukrainians, Baltics and Poles are more tied to Venetian People than it may seem.

 Nor that the Bretons confronted by Julius Caesar in France before the invasion of Britain in 53 B.C. and by himself admired for bravery and trade ability were Venetians of our own blood.

 € 20,000 are ENOUGH for a simple cross-checking of Venetian haplotypes with the gene-banks that we have already in order to open a revolutionary breach in the world of Ethnology.

 Help us at least for the first step of this research by donating at least 10  to our Foundation, by clicking on the orange button with the lion logo alongside or with a bank transfer to the account:

account number 55196586
sort code 602128
IBAN: GB26NWBK60212855196586

SPECIFYING "VENETIAN HAPLOTYPES PROJECT" in the purpose of your payment, so as not to confuse it with the many projects that are being promoted by VA for the good of the Venetian People.


Interview with Dr Piero Favero.

 Dr PF: Linguistic studies of Françoise Bader (University of Sorbonne) and Jadranka Gvozdanović (University of Heidelberg) show cultural unit of ancient peoples with name Venetics who settled in the Baltic region, and the Atlantic and the Adriatic coasts. Genetic study of haplotypes in these populations confirm a common root.

 VA: What is the advantage of discovering the origin of  Veneti in the dispute between autochthony hypothesis and hypothesis of migration?

 Dr PV: The scientific interest is relevant because it could highlight an important part played by Veneti in building the cultural substrate of much of Europe.

 Genetic research on the three most common target areas, Atlantic, Adriatic and Baltic coasts, can be organized in steps:

 1)  A preliminary study based on a review of scientific literature and analysis of test results of haplogroups already stored in databases.

 2)  Comparing these data with those gathered by ancient history experts and anthropologists.

3)  DNA testing focused on geographic micro environments with populations already identified for significant and reliable features.

 4)  Extension of tests on the bones of the first  Christianized Venetians to be subjected to burial (before Christianization the Venetics were subjected to burning and so their DNA would be wasted).

5) Extension of this research to other areas involved (for example Northern Anatolia).

VA: Of course, at every step one can publish results!

SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND (text by Piero Favero)

VA: What is a clade?

 Dr PF: A clade -Greekκλάδος(kládos = Branch)-is defined as a group of organisms made up of a single common ancestor to all descendants of that ancestor.

 In Europe there are about forty branches of haplogroup R1a, among these the R1a-Z92, also called "North-Eurasian", that covers the areas of settlement in the first Venetic-Baltic and Western Ukrainian areas, leading earlier to the emergence  of  the Ponto-Baltic Amber Road and then  later to the Baltic-Adriatic Sea Amber Road.

What is striking here is the discovery of the presence of haplogroup R1a-Z92 in Brittany, which can confirm the hypothesis of Jadranka Gvozdanović of cultural homogeneity between Baltic Venetics and Venetics of Brittany.

 Another surprising location of Z92 is the area of Lake Van in Turkey (Kurdish Behra Wanê). The presence of R1a in Italian territory is weak, but what is obvious is its concentration in the Northeast of Italy (also called Tri-Veneto) and in Slovenia, an area whose geographic center is Venice.

 VA: and what do we know of the other branches of R1a haplotypes?

 Dr PF: On the whole of European territory, a  similar geographical extent of concentration of haplogroup R1a is true also for many other branches of R1a, for example the R1a-M458-L260 (Western- Slavic-Branch), the R1a-YP578 and R1a-YP419 (Baltic-Carpathian Branch), but generally they do not have the feature of incorporating the Atlantic area.

 Since the Lusatian culture is the most peculiar expression of Venetian archaic population, the problem is finding a correlation of sub-groups related to R1a-Z92 and other subgroups R1a within the culture of Lusatia, and considering the extent of its period, i.e. between 1300 B.C. and 500 B.C.

The R1a-M458-L260 (Western-Slavic Branch) and R1a-YP578 (Baltic-Carpathian Branch) correspond to a period around 1000 A,C., yet the spread shown by maps seems to coincide with less Venetic populations compared to Z92 areas.

 VA: so can we say that the North Eurasian branch of R1a, the Z92, is the "Venetian" one?

 Dr PF: The North-Eurasian(NEA) branch is characterized by SNP Z92 and is divided into two main sub-tree branches:

1) the oldest sub-tree branch (NEA-1) has several haplotypes that deviate from Z280 for 9 mutations and its location is 400 ± 3600 y.b.p. (years before present), i.e. the equivalent of 2000-1200 BC. The branch is concentrated with greater intensity in the North of Poland and does not reach the Atlantic.

2) The most recent sub-tree branch (NEA-2) reaches  the Atlantic and has 12 mutations from basic haplotype Z280 and 13 from NEA-1 mutations. The period includes 2350 ± 300 y.b.p, corresponding to 650-50 BC. It is interesting to note that both branches are contemporary to the Lusatian culture: the oldest branch is contemporary to his debut in 1300 b.c. and the newest branch to its final period, up to 500 BC.

With this we cannot say for definite that Z92 is the only marker of the Lusatian culture or of the ancient Veneti; whether we talk of people of Lusatian culture or specifically of Venetics, we must think of a mosaic, where characteristic marking features are not only branches of the R1a, but also of the R1b, and also of the G or I2 haplogroups.

 VA: Thank you, Dr Favero.

Dr PF: You are welcome!

Dr. Piero Favero
Doctor, writer and expert in Venetian Ethnology.